I’m not an admin, but I can say that TXT’s vocals are about the same as BTS’s. I mean what is old and what is new in this day and age anyway? I hope this is much clearer than my previous comment and that the videos work this time. I’m not sure I fully understand what breath support is. Welcome!! I’m sorry but Jin’s supported range can’t be determined because he has not established consistent support anywhere in his voice yet. lol Awww thank you, see this is something I try to live by personally because I’m tired of people bringing up personal things in arguments. Do they simply lack any knowledge of proper vocal technique? Hi ahmin! He is one of the four members of the main vocal line, three tenors and one baritone. I kind of sound like a girl and my vocal range is between F3-G5-C7 am I a tenor or slto. He seems to be the most comfortable in this register and is able to transition into it much earlier in range than most tenors would. Loving this! That isn’t the point of the analysis? Thank you so much ^^ I’m also not sure about that! I discovered your blog recently and i’m impressed with how professional and precise your analysis are. For the most part, his mixed voice is quite light in tone and lacks power. 1. jungkook - im not even being biased i mean hes not the main vocalist for nothing. As such, he takes a liking to adding his own musical ideas to songs and they’re usually in the form of vocal runs. As such, a lot of their songs are mostly rapped verses with hook choruses sung by the four members of the vocal line. The thing is none of them can support a note in head voice consistently, so to expect them to support anything in the fifth octave properly isn’t realistic. HV Vocalists: High head voice vocalists, 0. Tae may have a less commercial voice than JK and at his peaks can do amazing things with his voice, but he isn’t as consistent like jk is. Even though it’s been a year, I still actually remember this comment really well; especially the part where you talk about “avoiding disclaimers”. His G#4s are sketchy because they all happen on really tight vowels, the e and aye vowel shapes. UNFORTUNATELY a lot of people hardly understand or read the analyses and instead focus solely on the ratings. You came here acting you know me, when this is not a page about me. ^^ I will look forward to your future blogs. Thank you for this. In a recent live he talked about how he felt he was lacking since he didn’t get as many vocal lessons and mentioned about wanting to improve and about experimenting with different techniques. When he isn’t able to mix properly, he switches to falsetto which is often relaxed and well controlled, and it actually minimises vocal strain. You don’t know me and yet you acted like you did, wouldn’t you be frustrated if someone said you were doing things you never did? I really learned alot from your vocal appreciation blogs! His falsetto register is, relatively speaking, his most developed register. ... Knetizens are in awe of our vocal genius, Jungkook in BTS … And what is the highest note ? tbh not sure why I am responding to you, you don’t sound like a person who understands support as a concept so i will end it here i can keep explaining things with examples and all but not gonna do it . I also haven't studied music professionally. By no means an admin or an expert, just using my prior experience from listening to other vocalists on the blog and comparing them to him. Also, his transitions in falsetto are relatively well done. This is amazing since the average tenor's chest range usually peaks around a G4, which means Jimin naturally sings 6 notes higher than the average man. Jungkook’s voice stands … But within a group, it would make sense in context to compare vocalists. I personally haven’t heard a change in his technique, but I haven’t heard it from any of them actually. Since you don’t really seem to know us, then I might have to give context to a few things. To be more specific, I was wondering about your thoughts on Jungkook teaching Taehyung how to improve his high note technique. Instead their focus is a lot more on smooth and soft singing within a relatively narrow range, which Jungkook delivers very effectively. The difference between Falsetto and head voice: in terms of style, falsetto is something that is mostly used to convey certain emotions in a song, it is detached and weak in terms of quality, and is mostly favoured in soulful R&B. Instead just use facts, analytic details and be straight to the point. WE are not to blame for the toxic nature of fandoms where they always try to fight about who created what first. Is it unrelated to technique? Technically speaking, I believe he’s the strongest tenor between the three. So I can’t say they’re wrong or right because they don’t really say anything. Jungkook’s been doing this one thing (around 0:13 & 0:35 i believe) at their concerts recently which i feel sounds different from the way he used to sing this certain part before. Is it true? Have they shown improvement or stayed the same? His singing style fits perfectly in the style BTS’s music is written in. However, his “Dasi Run Run Run nan meomchul suga eopseo” part in “Run” is F#4, which is a semitone higher than F4, and for me, I love it when he sings those notes (F4-F#4-G4) because this is where you can hear his pure voice, with a slight rasp and no head voice dominance; I think they're mixed perfectly. Like I said there are multiple people out there fighting about who’s better than who. Chester Bennington has one of the most powerful and unique voices every seen in Rock. i don’t know if anybody’s been told you this but since it still don’t work i guess i’m just gonna tell you anyway. I almost forgot to mention how he loves doing vocal runs; I think it’s his signature in BTS as a vocalist. A lot of this comment is “Jungkook has better aspects while singing and dancing at the same compared to the other BTS members” but this analysis isn’t “is Jungkook better than the rest of BTS” but instead it’s a breakdown of how he uses his voice which you did not address at all. Head voice has more dynamic range and enables you to do transitions rather easily without being disconnected. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. As such, a lot of their songs are mostly rapped verses with hook choruses sung by the four members of the vocal line. Ok i can’t answer directly but well, your point of view is very interesting, but it seems like you think that is normal to support G4 and mix +D5 for mens, for your information, it isn’t, the fact that, according to you there are 120 tenors that can mix a F5 in the industry doesn’t change anything, is still impressive, and it is true that there many can do it but i’m sure that you can’t even name more than 20, obviously his larynx was high, i mean, he is singing an octave higher that him supported range, and, since when you need to be loud to get well a note? i’m just gonna do nct’s main vocalists and not lead and subvocalists because then there’s just wayyyyy too many members. In true countertenor fashion, the true girth of Jimin's voice starts around an E4 and peaks around a C #5 in chest/mixed chest range. It’s like asking a woman to sing any guy song. Say again i came here just because u said u would not compare but now I know maybe it’s not for all singers,and I don’t want to quarrel with you here even I know u have post my reply on Twitter,but I still can’t dm u because u block me even I never say anything to u on Twitter….anyway hope u can really focus on teaching and hope ur actions really correspond with ur words.Have a nice day ! None of TXT are technically better than Jungkook and Taehyung from what I heard (I hear very shallow support to no support at all from them). I’m tired because fans of specific idols who do NOT take the time to listen to as many idols and singers as we did come to me telling me I am biased, when they are the ones who literally only know a handful of vocalists. He actually often mixes quite low and is not known for being a very high belter. I think they…I don’t know, a lot of people have some degree of knowledge of basic things, but I am one of those people who hates this thing people do online. So here I am, I remembered to leave this comment so that I could respond to it later! I really think you need to reanalyze Jungkook because I truly feel like he has an inaccurate vocal grade/analysis. This is a snippet from his new solo song what do you think about it? I’d call it a stylistic preference and I’d only hope for him to just keep his vocal cords connected with less force. Of course, all the other members of the vocal lines have amazing talent, but Jungkook’s position in the group is in fact main vocalist. Their music generally stays within the F3 ~ G4 range, which is a relatively comfortable range for a tenor but actually quite challenging for a baritone to constantly be singing in. I love you Ahmin, maybe one day I’ll sing for you(to ask for your op) hope my comment make you feel better even if just a bit. Honestly I wasn’t going to respond because I haven’t been responding to video questions for a while now but this is something I wanted to know too. I’m honestly surprised at how high Jungkook can reach in his upper register, for most males can sing as high as a G5 or G #5, which is his highest note in “Oh happy day”. He sometime tends to add overly complicated runs to many of his vocal performances and they often sound rushed. short vid, i wanna show you the vocal run & slowed down so you can hear all the notes. In this case, when people say Jungkook is a versatile singer, they would most likely mean that he can sing in many different styles and genres of music. I'm back with third post of the vocal appreciation series (that tends to be on the analytical side, but that's okay), it's the third tenor: Jeon Jungkook. Ever since, that ranking has been removed because as I grew older and matured, I started to feel like the ranking style of the blog interfered with my original intention of having a blog that focuses on teaching those who want to learn more about vocal technique. Also would love to hear your thoughts on Euphoria – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4OfWQb7GNA Doing long vocal runs shows that he has average to good breath support, but sometimes they sound rushed when improvised. I also don’t hear too much breath support, but some members definitely have a shallow sense for it. When it comes to the flexibility of his voice, Jungkook actually possesses the correct muscle memory and rhythmic bounce to clearly sing through different notes in simple trills, as long as they’re short and simple, as heard in “I Need a Girl.” Unfortunately, he tends to add overly complicated runs to many of his vocal performances, which lack precision and accuracy overall. I’m honestly surprised at how high Jungkook can reach in his upper register, for most males can sing as high as a G5 or G#5, which is his highest note in “Oh happy day”. “plz do not criticize one person in order to praise another one” The song is only something over 2 minutes so please check it if you have time. Due to his stylistic choices, Jungkook often employs a very unique approach to his singing. Thank you for the answer, actually i saw the jungkook’s notes of “on” on james cardon latter after asking this question, also the same notes seem less powerful and less higher in the comeback live at mcountdown, i’m also curious to know if there any improuvement in bts vocal Happy Day' (Cover) [Han|Rom|Eng lyrics], BTS Jungkook - See you Again (short cover). June 2013 marked BTS’ debut with their song “No More Dream” from their album, 2 Kool 4 Skool. 5 Thank you, old Bangtan! I’m tired, tired of being attacked and accused of things I didn’t do. I have a question as I’ve been hearing this from a lot of Jungkook fans on YouTube. the word is thrown everywhere quite easily, objectively and in the context of vocalization being versatile is the ability to use different tones and nuances according to the genera of music like how Whitney was using her head voice in many ways and could play with it ( she could go from very Full dark head voice in her ballads to a more popish one in her dancy songs ) or like how some advanced vocalists could sing quite technically in different genres including Ailee , kyuhyun and Ryeowook, Junsu , EXO , hongki …..etc, hullo i just want to say that i found this website AGES ago, way back when i was a fetus in high school and now i’m a sophomore in college and I’m just very impressed with your dedication and passion for this vocal analysis site like wow you’re still alive and kicking!!! The group debuted as mostly a hip-hop based group where most of the focus of their music is on rapping as opposed to singing. the 2nd one) but i’m wondering if he’s trying something good or bad for his vocals. I don’t want to attack him, I have nothing against him. I think it’s something related to vocal agility but I’m not sure if it a vocal run . You know what I mean? It’s also helped me understand, at a deeper level, what is it I often get annoyed with when speaking with certain people in my field. Hwaiting! But your own inability to separate people from their singing and your inability to see this as it is, an objective look into vocal technique, makes it so that you can’t actually learn from it. It goes on roughly till 06:04 so it’d be great if you could check it out. What is meaning of this sentence? haha Thank you for pointing it out, it’s been fixed! Very early on in range he starts to sing with a tight throat and a high larynx, even as low as F4. However, due to his young age and to an extent lack of patience, there is a lack of clarity and development of his agility. Sufficient suppor… I don’t know if it’s executed properly (esp. In simple terms, it does mean you don’t strain and don’t have difficulty. When we say someone is versatile, we technically mean that they are useful in many or all aspects; they apply their skills to many, many different things. Jungkook’s been doing this one thing (around 0:13 & 0:35 i believe) at their concerts recently which i feel sounds different from the way he used to sing this certain part before. You have a nice day too. I can answer cause it’s brief. Now if we transpose that song from the original baritone key to a tenor key, the range would be like E3 to F#4. Hello, thank you for your great analysis! Ok. ill go and cry in a corner. I dont want to be heated lol umm i drink average 2 litres water a day so that may not be problem or is it? Is jungkook considered a light chest – no chest vocal type or a flip – falsetto , vocal type, he mean the vocal types this guy use, he explained those are not vocal classifications it just what vocalists do at their bridge/Pasaagio area . From what I’ve heard he’s remained more or less stagnant. lol I’m not angry, I wasn’t angry so I do apologize if it seems that way. I don’t like fans though, and that I have expressed many times. Able to remain relatively relaxed up to C#4 and at times even D4 6. Hi there! What’s funny? Are their vocals better than BTS’ so far (if one can say that much already)? Well I didn’t know it was you. Main vocalists usually receive most of the vocal lines per song, especially the most challenging ones, due to their wide and steady vocal range. umm but where should I post ? E-mail followers, please follow new blog! What should i do to able to sing that style. I hope I explained this well! I agree with you on how these so-called narratives about BTS vocal line right now don’t make any sense (no hate to them whatsoever as I think the hate on their vocals is exaggerated at this point), but I think out of all BTS vocal line, Jungkook is probably the only one who has made some sort of improvement IMO even if it’s not that significant at all (V slightly regressed IMO (which is a shame because he has my most favorite voice in the group) and Jimin and Jin stayed the same more or less despite common fandom belief on how they improved, but Jimin iirc is now taking vocal lessons so let’s see how it goes). In terms of hair, six of the five of the seven members had black hair at the time. It happened on almost all his G4s and one or two F4s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4OfWQb7GNA, https://www.rulu.co/episodes/bts-burn-stage-1×4/, https://twitter.com/JK_Glitters/status/1053298996347834368?s=19, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vEMm_EoTp4, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGH5lA9QXY, Girls' Generation's Vocal Analysis: Taeyeon [Newly Updated]. I think the vocal analysis is correct for the most part based on recent performances (supported range more or less stayed the same), but I think he improved for the agility and tone production and projection for his lower range I think. I think Jimin has shown potential musicianship singing wise but he tries to emulate others more than anything. According to some observers, Jungkook is considered to have quite heavy vocals. You could sing with a shallow quality where you’re not tense, but the vocal cords are not used properly. He’s so underrated and most fans don’t do him justice. Of course, as A… Just enjoy it and have fun with it! They’re great and amazing, I am a trained vocalist.” Like, you don’t need to say that you’re a trained vocalist, no need for a disclaimer. Yes Ahmin, you are not to blame for fanwars AT ALL though you left some weak point for her to attack you lol I understood her point, anyone can agree to disagree but thats not nice and not true at all to call one of the most selfless person I have seen iml biased like this. not ahmin but i will correct someone above too. It’s not a powerhouse vocalist, therefore he wouldn’t get the belter label for example. 1 note per millisecond. Although it may be true that Jungkook’s overall voice is not fully developed in terms of technique, this does not take away from the natural qualities he possesses as a vocalist. There is not only one voice technique is correct or healthy, I believe that many people have discussed with you before,and also I think this kind of argument is meaningless and always has no conclusion, because no one will change his opinion. I ask that you also take your time to read the response because I am tired of this. Jungkook happened to get injured recently so he hasn’t been dancing and has been focusing more on his singing these days. The group debuted as mostly a hip-hop based group where most of the focus of their music is on rapping as opposed to singing. This comparison is a joke. in less than a second, jeongguk hit 8!!! https://www.youtube.com/user/KitsuneMale Many of Jungkook’s issues lie solely with his lack of understanding of proper breath support and many of his stylistic choices. And his E4 never really very consistent tbh, sometimes got tight too. It focused a whole lot more on many other aspects of his vocal technique which you did not mention so again, if you could address parts of the analysis instead of being kind of general that would be better for me to see your points. I found this guy named Chris Hart who makes Japanese music, I was wondering if you could give a listen to this song…. But to say any of them are regressing is definitely pushing it. Breathiness in singing is perfectly fine if it can be turned on and off at will, however for him it’s become such a habit that he has yet to develop many areas of his voice. I can see her point too, but shifting the blame onto someone else without being aware of your own issues (the fandoms’) is not helpful either. Change ). I compare in every analysis, within a group. 4 -“he keeps almost the same strain for all him unsupported range from D4, he is straining a lot but he softens it very well, and he is relaxed ” so that improvement to you ? His vocal runs often sound rushed, as he’s unable to sing the notes as quickly as he needs to. i also do vocal warmups for like 10 minutes but that does’nt even help.and did you mean i drink adequate water by 1st question? They often support the lead vocalist during the chorus and are also more likely to receive solo parts than sub vocalists. 1 – Men are not generalized in one big category when it comes to vocalization, we’re expecting a tenor to support at least F#4 when we’re talking vocal technique for TENORS not “men” again the discussion in a technical analysis blog, you seem so sure in your response I don’t know why but let prove to you it really not impressive to mix an F5 for a TENOR We should always a to be better and better. When BTS debuted on the scene, Jungkook won over fans with his baby face and charismatic rapping. It’s not a big enough difference for it to matter to me personally. They fight about best outfits, best album sales, most attractive people, best singer, best dancers, hell even who’s funnier or more popular. I’d pretend like I did and not give him the time of day. I can unblock you if you’d like. I still think your English is pretty good. Also, I think most of the vocalists (most noticeable Soobin and Kai) are singing with the well-known JYP technique of half-sound, half-air while singing (not surprising considering BigHit was once part of JYP). He’s also not creating enough space in the back of the throat to let the sound flow out, and he doesn’t drop his jaw low enough to resonate. The admins are busy and not making them have to go through the song at random for Bb4s and below would be ideal. You can hear both singing Ha which means they’re pushing air through the H consonant before connecting the vocal cords, which means they’re overly relying on air pressure before singing with proper support. He also pushes a bit, which distorts his sound a bit. 1. :heart: :heart: :heart: You too haave a great day/night :gift_heart: I really love Kookie's voice,he can sing any song he wants.His voice is really stable,although he must dance while singing.No wonder he became the main vocalist.I loved every cover that he made and his solo track really defined himself. I think that’s one of the rare time that he sing that high I meant if all you wanted was for me to edit the analysis and delete the comparison part only, I’d have thought it was a valid comment and would have tried to consider it. But then once I give examples and put it into perspective by making comparisons, isn’t it then easier to understand? PEOPLE CAN LIKE WHATEVER THEY WANT that wasn’t any of the subjects of my responses ^^ you complain that nobody appreciates Jungkook’s voice (which isn’t true, he gets tons of praise by fans and members alike) and then you deliberately leave out V when you talk about the vocalists being amazing and talented. I love your thoughtful observations and explanations, so I’m really curious on your reactions. Hopefully my comment gets posted this time . Able to transition into his falsetto with relative ease 4. He can support up to Eb4 in his mixed voice, which is weak – average for a tenor. It’s not about who’s right, you just don’t want to listen. You have been emphasizing that your original intention is to spread knowledge and balabala. If you just complain without actually talking about vocal technique, it’s hard for me to do anything about it. He posses the correct muscle memory and rhythmic bounce to clearly sing through different notes in simple trills, for his voice is fairly flexible. Do you know a passaggio is? I really think you should watch many recent live performances of bangtan and consider a re-analysis for Jungkook. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. But if we look at it more in depth, it means a vocalist is able to manage just enough air from their diaphragm without pushing, use their vocal cords while they connect correctly, where they’re the muscles mostly used when singing. Disclaimer: I don't own any of the pictures or the videos above. The way he sings here is slightly different from how he usually sings https://youtu.be/DkGH5lA9QXY. Starting from G#4 is where I’m officially off planet earth and knocking the gates of heaven (or maybe hell, I’m a sinner for his voice). We are not responsible for how fans deal with these things. He just has not even sound through it and not too loud and that is a really hard thing to do but he does it so well. BTS won the Daesang at the 2020 TMA's, which they won 3 years in a row. Like I said before, if I said Jungkook > V, V fans would’ve been upset. Just sad cause I watched the if you performance and Jungkook said it himself that he isn’t a good enough vocalist and said that he is still very lacking as a vocalist. This is a highly suggested reaction from you guys, so here it is...WE TAKE YOUR SUGGESTIONS SERIOUSLY!! Although nasality and breathiness are not always desirable in singing, vocalists can still be skilled while overusing them (e.g. Is this what you call lack of evidence? You said he barely goes out of tune and as far as I recall the analysis hardly focused on his pitch? Can you tell me about Seokjin a little more? A note that in a man’s voice is high, for a woman is not that high at all. Whereas a baritone like V would sing with less tension and be able to sing up to C#4 without strain. 1. He doesn’t have the ability to use head voice – a sign that his higher register has not developed a lot. Between the four of them they are able to cover a range of pitches and styles. The same concept applies within genders. So informative :two_hearts: This is a Community where everyone can express their love for the Kpop group BTS. some of the praised idols “singer” today are really not what their fans think they are …i can drop names but let just not :’D. This website saves cookies to your browser in order to improve your online experience and show you personalized content. As mentioned in my last article, Jin is a natural tenor, but more specifically, his natural tenor timbre resonates best in a "2nd tenor" where his "tenor tessitura" range lies … So instead of asking for me to delete something I worked hard on without any real good reasoning, instead put in half of the effort I put into writing this and actually read and address the analysis. he has the enough volume to you can hear it very clear, also, for effortlesly i dont mean supported, but he keeps almost the same strain for all him unsopported range from D4, he is straining a lot but he softens it very well, and he is relaxed, and yes there are baritones that can support very high like Hwanhee, but he was plus 30 in that video, i dont know how it was he supported range in his middle 20s, but surely he has improved a lot since then, thats what people do, V isn’t like an incredible singer, but he still can improves a lot, so let’s wait for it, also, never said that last part, is a very good phrased G4, that’s all, as you know people are different, Jk has been a very quiet and smooth singer, he never needed to develop a higher range so he never did, as others that did that first, even before getting a proper tone, as you say that you can’t hear any improvement i guess you dont know how was Jk strugglin a C5 just 4 months back, he is now in a good way of improvement, and i hope he keeps that way, and the others start improving their OWN abilities. 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